Presented by Gratwick. Friend and partner Chase Sabina hangs out for a bit to talk about building his agency (The Hinterland Group), how he got started as one of the first influencers on Tumblr and what he thinks about the marketing choices made by 2000 Mules. We also discuss our mutual affection for professional authenticity and how our shared frustration over LTNCs lack of authenticity bonded us.

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